Eu4 ming mandate. Mingsplosion is actually the opposite of what you want as oirat or manchu. Additionally you could try to figure out a way to get rid of Ming's tributaries further decreasing the mandate, but I'm not sure how you'd go about that. 4. Even as a player doing all the right things, it's hard to keep it all the time. Oirat and the Mingplosion in 1. EU4 noob here. Ming doesn't lose mandate for non-tributary neighbors. From Europa Universalis 4 Wiki. How to increase mandate with Ming late game. After that siege you can start taking battles. 05 Mandate through a When you take the mandate Ming spits out all the princedoms. These are events for Ming and Emperor of China. You'll get notified about it. Stellaris, Europa Universalis, Imperator: Rome, Crusader Kings, Hearts of Iron, Victoria and Cities: Skylines. I Once I grew past the point where ming would keep me as a tributary, they fucked up and declared war. Other options include destroying their entire army and occupying most provinces to generate devestation quickly, forcing them to take loans by strangling their economy, and/ or taking the land needed to give them a Mandate malice (Canton, Beijing, and Nanjing). In addition, Ming gets massive penalties for devastation, not controlling its 3 main cities, and being in debt (having loans). CCR of 20% (10% from Decree and 10% from Mandate Whether you’re a newcomer to EU4 or a fledgling strategist looking for a fresh adventure, this guide is your gateway to unlocking the full potential of playing as Ming. Thread starter heliostellar; Start date Sep 28, 2020; Jump to latest Follow Reply Menu We have I remember years ago playing as Ming that low mandate was a catastrophe—rebellions everywhere, etc. Whether you’re a newcomer to EU4 or a fledgling strategist looking for a fresh adventure, this guide is your gateway to unlocking the full potential of playing as Ming. Date Posted: Nov 26, 2017 @ 1:25pm. 31 Ironman Normal Difficulty. Neutrino Bomb Jan 13, 2019 @ 12:27am. The disaster will cause them to continue losing mandate until you stop The Ming dynasty is crumbling due to internal strife. 05, which can be compensated with holding the Forbidden city +0. They're not even the best China for WCs with Oirat>Yuan being a much easier choice. It will be hard considering forts reduce devastation quite quickly, and that is the principle factor for getting Ming to explode. Keep them with high devastion after every war and always take max ducats so they stay In debt. 3 years later they were 0 manpower, 0 mandate and had 3 cannons for every frontline troop. This This is a list of all missions for the emperor of china [1]. Welcome to Europa Universalis IV, where history and strategy converge! In this guide, we’ll take on the mighty role of Ming, an empire that once shaped the destiny of East Asia. In that disaster, there's pulse events that give Ming a choice between having rebels spawn but getting +5 Mandate, or not having those rebels spawn but getting -5 Mandate. If Ming was just a normal monarchy at the start of the game, they would almost always end up owning half the world. If you really need mandate, you can trigger the disaster 'civil war', because Chinese Emperor doesn't have legitimacy, the event that adds legitimacy will change to mandate. If they have less than 50 mandate their armies are essentially made of paper. because i don't have the mandate dlc i can't say for how ming is now, but you definitely can't exploit their mandate, so they can neither become super weak as can be done Ming loses the Mandate just about as often as the Ottomans get beaten early game without player intervention. Nov 2, 2024 You can get the 3rd reform pre AoR, and for the 4th reform, get ~0. One gains 60 mandate right away and there are events that give even more mandate. No neighbor stood a chance. Choose Mandate 'Conduct Population Census' Set and promote your advisors to A3-5,D3-5,M3* ️ PATREON https://www. It aims to create a more dynamic and historical East Asia, as well as a more fun and engaging Ming / Celestial Empire. They are at risk of losing the Mandate. 1 Offices of Maritime Trade in power. I'd just make tags tributaries if I don't plan on expanding towards them. Then on to bejing when de event capture of the emperor happens. #11. ADMIN MOD Turning tributaries into vassals with mandate should start integrating them using mandate instead of diplo points instead. How can i do it if I can do it ? Europa Universalis IV > General Discussions > Topic Details. Not Ironman/achievements compatible. EU4 Ming is all about properly managing your country in the domination dlc, which leads to some amazing snowball moments, from a really tough beginning to in So I am trying to take over the world with Ming, once it grows large enough it is almost impossible to generate positive Mandate, and it is very hard to play with 0 Mandate. Get Europa Universalis 4 [EU4] Mandate of Heaven Gameplay as Ming!Ming begins the timeline as the emperor of China! Let’s hope we can keep it together and preven Jump to latest Follow Reply. Enact your 4th reform (the most important one) and In my current Vijayanagar->Bharat game, Ming is at 0 Mandate for over 50 years. Ming has the emperor of china mechanics wherein once you pass all reforms, you can integrate your tributaries into regular vassals. A Ming with 0 mandate is probably weaker in the long run than a Ming without the mandate. I quit a Ming playthrough yesterday around 1467 because it wasn't fun at all getting bad events over and over after passing the first mandate reform. ↑ See in /Europa Universalis IV/common With MoH Ming cannot "lose" the Mandate automatically. They're a pretty bad group generally, but especially for Ming who don't need extra force limit/manpower anyway. But make sure to have most of your neighbours as tributarties (especially the ones with high What you need to be handling along the way is your Mandate. It provides useful bonuses and is more of a hassle to get rid of than not. For not having Nanjing or Canton you lose -0. Members Online • After the age of discovery how do you spend mandate as ming without triggering the crisis of the dynasty? I want to use more celestial reforms but don't want to hit the crisis of the ming A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. Forming Manchu has three important effects: The cores, being released from being a Ming tribituary and -50 Mandate for Ming. Magis Best way to beat them is to lower their mandate score by waging a war of attrition through devastating their provinces. I've only picked up the Mandate twice, once in a Japan run and recently in my first Qing campaign. 5, plus no religious unity penalty CCR of 20% (10% from Decree and 10% from Mandate Reform) puts Ming at comparable level to Each prosperous state gives +. Modification that expands the Empire Of China and Mandate of Heaven mechanics. I'm playing as the Livonian Order and am colonizing Sibera now. 1. So by taking out loans you can fire the disaster at a mandate high above what is should be, minimizing the time it takes to raise it back to 75 and reducing the unrest from low mandate This. Go for 100% and take as much as you can including money and very important bejing so ming can’t recover mandate. Suggestion in my experience, since the dlc came out (and i don't own it) i feel like ming collapses less often than it did before. Members Online • adl805 Ming has a mechanic called mandate that gives them serious debuffs when it's below a threshold. As long as you let Ming keep the mandate of heaven, they're a complete pushover. It doesn’t seem to do anything anymore. com/ludiethistoria ️JOIN https://www. Then attack a tributary of ming to truce reset and take only full money from ming. No guarantees to any compatibility with any other mods, although graphical mods should be compatible. A 0 mandate Ming is much easier to beat and peace out than the splinter states which will spawn in its place. If you have 300+ dev, Ming will get a disaster. Series Playlist:- https://goo. (I timed it so that I have 3 stability and 35 mandate after passing the reform through lucky events, but I got a -5 mandate event, 2 loan sized -cash events right after). Crisis of the Ming Dynasty [1] is a disaster in Ming after the ‘Age of Discovery’. If I'm next door the Ming collapse is complete pre 1500 usually. Force Ming to pop I've been trying to do a World Conquest as Ming, in EU IV 1. You will get some great bonus from being Emperor of China. So I am trying to take over the world with Ming, once it grows large enough it is almost impossible to generate < 1 2 3 > Showing 1 - 15 of 31 comments. Oh and quantity ideas are a really poor choice for Ming. Contents. With Mandate of Heaven, the Celestial Empire represents Ming So if Ming AI gets lucky it could stay stable until end game, but often in the 1600s they still explode. If you have prosperity in the Chinese region then that's more than enough to get all the reforms. youtube. as a horde the earlier you attack Ming the better since cavalry and shock is only really useful in the early game before cannons become good. The thing is, as soon as Ming passes a reform and has low mandate, just break tribunary status. 1 Trade Regulations; Empire and in the provinces the people have started talking about this being a sign of us losing the Mandate of Heaven. Mhh I guess you can lower the mandate requirement by getting war score cost reductions like diplomatic idea, or admin efficiency from admin tech and absolutism but I don't think that you will be able to lower a 300 mandate requirement to less than 100 any time soon without any kind of war. Debt and devastation are the biggest negative modifiers for mandate. Regenies, for example, cause you to lose the mandate of heaven and it's very unlikely you'll get through a whole game without a regency. Members Online • VultureSausage. I just completed my Ming WC in 1. Once that war was over I culture converted and formed Qing. I’m so goddarn happy I made it, I left the pacific islands - Tonga, Vanuatu etc till the last and the natives had built Level 8 forts there ;D It’s devastation, it reduces your dev, a hit to mandate and -2 stab each time. Reply A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. the monthly pulses of the ‘Crisis of the Ming Dynasty’ and the 'Unguarded Nomadic Frontier' disasters. Or doesn't even bother, 1. I took mandate right away more than 10 times and it is relatively easy to hold it. The whole mandate mechanic exists so that Ming doesn't just conquer the world so the tiny bonuses mean very little. patreon. ludiethisto Only take that battle. Mandate of Heaven is now worth it! One of the main goals of this mod, is to make playing Ming more challenging. com]. , all while nerfing rebels. - harmonize religions only when 95+ harmony. Celestial Empire plus Mandate of Heaven gives you -8 to revolt risk. Some time within the first 100 years I always have an Emperor die without an heir, leading to a loss of the Mandate Be wary of taking the mandate of heaven: Once you beat Ming and take Beijing it's pretty much game over for them. 0 unless otherwise noted. - don't use missionaries. Armies with 10-25% cav are plenty for 0 mandate ming, as long as you get them on flat terrain and it’s not like 10 to 1 you can win However, I'm facing the old dilema: should I take the Mandate of Heaven from Ming? At this point, I have Xi as a vassal and Oirat, Kara Del and some indonesians as tributaries, and working on making some more. These missions can be acquired by taking the mandate of heaven as one of the following countries while having a No revolts under 100% OE since Mandate gives -2. There are tonnes of nations that are better for WCs than Ming. Except, with low mandate, Ming is an absolute pushover. 35+ with in November 1820, barely 2 months till end game. 06 mandate per year, while you lose . I am writing this guide to offer advanced tips on MING for EU4 ver 1. 03 at lvl 1 and Manchu mission The Mandate of heaven +0. It was announced on A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. Currently interesting nations are: - China - Japan - Korea - Timurids The main ways to reduce mandate are to wait until they pass a reform, and then attack Ming or its tributaries. 5, plus no religious unity penalty. They cancelled some larger tributaries with high liberty desire (i. The latter two are effects you want to time properly so you don't really want to Ming is the strongest nation in the game. To prevent that, you can make sure that never fall below 0 stability and keep your legitimacy up. Just keep the mandate. Ming has a unique monarchy form with fixed empire rank and fixed dynasty called the Celestial Empire, reflecting the Chinese belief that a well-governed empire was evidence of divine sanction and blessing, whereas a poorly governed or tyrannical one was evidence that the Emperor could be deposed. - don't use meritocracy Make sure you own Beijing, Nanjing and Canton BEFORE taking the mandate - not owning any of those cities gives a -0. So how do you increase Mandate in late game with Ming, there seems to be too many non-tributaries. A Mandate value above 50 gives bonuses scaling up maximum to 100, a Mandate value below 50 gives penalties scaling up to maximum at 0 Mandate. 17. In terms of admin points The problem is that Ming disappeared and now i control the majority of Asia and I dont have the mandate and don't know how to gain it or make it reappear. Europa Universalis IV. Given that the disaster ends when Ming has >= 70 Mandate and no rebels, it's a delicate balance of when to choose which of those two options. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. 30 nerfed attrition by about 4x, and added like 50%-100% extra manpower, depending on estates etc. No rebels to be seen. Also, it doesn’t seem to be affected by Surely there are some minor obstacles early on, but in general the playthrough was not at all challenging and thus many players steered away from playing the Great Ming, despite it having a not-insubstantial amount of flavor in the form of events, factions and later the Mandate of Heaven mechanic, the latter of which ended up being a bit of a Ming China Flavour adds to the East Asia and China experience in EU4. 05. before it almost felt like 90% chance it would happen, now it seems 40% or so. You will need to wait until you reach a tech with military tactics and raze and pick up the tech ahead of time, you want a decent manpower pool and at least 40 regiments with at least 50% horsemen. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos Workshop News Guides Reviews If they are so weak that you can beat them, you could have just conquered them long ago. Ming will almost certainly lose the mandate eventually. In 1. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about So waiting for 100 mandate and then taking on the loans will start a Crisis of the Ming Dynasty where you are 65 mandate, inches away from ending the disaster. as any other country but Ming. ; About Europa Universalis 4 Wiki; Mobile view No revolts under 100% OE since Mandate gives -2. Despite having 0 mandate and the disaster: nothing happend. gl/VTRxGiI take a first look at Mandate of Heaven, the latest Europa Universalis IV DLC. Members Online. This lets Ming eat a bunch of non-cored provinces, which is really handy when you can't vassalize someone in a single war. 3 mandate for each 100 non-tributary development. The Emperor of China mechanics have the "Mandate value" which changes depending on many things (like stability or bordering non-Tributaries). Apr 29, 2017 @ 10:38pm. That being said, I agree it's really hard to get the Mandate back when you lose it. As a player you can help trigger the collapse by looting provinces not in zone of controls and take maximum money from Ming in wars, and remember that <50 mandate means Ming army take more damage, making the war easier. If the realm is to prosper we must pacify the Nomad Frontier. The rise of a powerful Horde on our borders is casting a grim shadow over our pretensions to possess the Mandate of Heaven. 34. This requires DLC but I can’t say exactly which; I have all of them except Leviathan. Mandate of Heaven is the 10th expansion for Europa Universalis IV. At least some were last verified for version 1. 4 ticking mandate (half state prosperity, OPM in china for unify china, tribs, etc. The Ming at the start of the game in 1444 has a unique situation where their ruler is pretty much guaranteed to get killed in any battle he loses and this causes huge problems in Ming due to unique events and gets the ball rolling for their collapse. Once you pass all mandate reforms you don't need to concern yourself with tributaries too much but if you make big countries in areas you don't plan to conquer immediately, you're setting yourself up for yet more mana which is always pretty welcome and on top of the constant lvl 5 advisors ming has, lets you do pretty outrageous stuff If they keep the mandate while being a vassal, I have a recommendation that might work: Ming loses mandate if they have less than 20 provinces. The only real threat is Russia, but usually there are nations like Oirat, Yarkand, Korea or Mongolia that stand between Russia and Ming so there isn't any Mandate loss, and Russia can't defeat Ming well enough (when he actually does) to take the land to border Ming A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. . paradoxwikis. I am planning to make this mod something bigger than just China expanded. Still no successful rebellion, despite my beating them down continuously and seizing large The concept of the Mandate of Heaven is one riddled with stories of success and bitter demise, heartfelt mystery and stark revelations. I played on hard, waited until 1530 or so, which is waaaay late. It has seen to the rise and fall of some of #2. Don't remember if the mission is available for manchu because I've not played it in a while, but I know for sure as Qing there is a mission that once ming has been removed from the map gives you full cores on all the provinces in the China super region that you don't currently own. Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven expansion feature spotlight by EU4's game designer Jake "DDRJake" Leiper-Ritchie. 05 mandate growth penalty per city. 50 unrest and Pagan Harmonization gives -0. com/channel/UCc44DwqpTHpQJrCgjWVsjkA/join💻 TWITCH http://twitch. And while Ming still has tributaries In this version, you may break the truce with Ming with unifying China CB, since this CB grants you core and Confucius AE is quite low. How do I beat This page was last edited on 3 May 2017, at 18:51. MEbigBoss • If memory serves right, Ming has a The first war with Ming after the mandate dropped Korean war where Ming is dragged into due to the tributary system This way, Ming would practically fight in 3 wars in over a decade, even if Ming doesnt break as much, Ming definitely wouldnt be able to overpower you in the next wars. Since I went Jianzhou > Machu > Qing, I got an added +0. You'll need to have tributaries to gain mandate to pass reforms. Korea), made them tributaries again forcefully, rinse and repeat. You want ming intact to avoid unneccesary coalitions from many little Chinese nations. 30. Octopuses Apr 23, 2023 @ 5:21am. 30,000 Cavalry, which if you stay Tengri, and pick up Aristocratic Ideas, you should easily be able to field, should be able to decimate any number of Ming troops, so long as you only fight in flat terrain. Mandate of Heaven, (or MoH), adds sev I highly doubt that. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. Originally posted by Victrixy: Claim it. ) and wait for a +mandate event. Don't be afraid of the unrest in china. Ming's mandate dropped and at some point the Ungarded Frontier disaster triggered. So for every 5 prosperous states you have, you can maintain another 100 non-tributary development. Yeah, back in 1. Reply reply [deleted] • It’s too late (1700) to have a serious effect. e. Ming gets a small amount of mandate per tributary, so removing or annexing tributaries helps. 30 Ming will just spam mercs, they're essentially infinite. Tbf, 1618 to 1683 for the entirety of China is pretty fast in eu4 terms. The Celestial Reforms give some good benefits, but also you need high mandate generation to make the Crisis of the Without the DLC, the disaster can happen if you get the triggered modifier The Mandate of Heaven Lost [eu4. 29 0 mandate meant -200% mercs, so eventually rebels wore down Ming's manpower. Feed them those quickly and they get it back, in which case I think they should make an excellent vassal (considering the -5 RR they receive when they keep mandate).

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